Threat from alleged Mafia boss ended mobster’s work as police informant, cocaine trial hears

Carmine Guido had been wired up 227 times, recording audio and video of his meetings with alleged mobsters and drug traffickers. Rumours had spread in the underworld

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TORONTO — A well-connected Toronto mobster who had secretly been working with police to penetrate the city’s powerful Mafia clans knew his time as a double agent was running out when a man he considers one of the most powerful mob bosses threatened him.

Carmine Guido had been a working as a police agent for nearly two years; 227 times he had been wired up by a special anti-Mafia police taskforce, recording audio and video of his meetings with alleged mobsters and drug traffickers as the centrepiece witness of a large probe into the city’s Mafia clans.

Rumours had spread in the underworld.

Then Cosimo Commisso came to talk to him, Guido said, testifying in court Tuesday as part of a precedent-setting Mafia trial.

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Commisso is not on trial and was not charged in the case, although court heard he was an original target of the police probe. The jury has heard plenty about him. Guido said Commisso is the Toronto boss of a prominent clan of the ’Ndrangheta, the proper name of the Mafia in southern Italy’s Calabria region.

“He threatened me. He threatened my family that day, too,” Guido said of Commisso.

Despite the confrontation, a few days later, Guido still went to an Italian café in Vaughan, Ont., to meet with Giuseppe Ursino, one of two men on trial. Ursino, 64, of Bradford, Ont., known as Pino, is an alleged boss of another clan of the ’Ndrangheta and was Guido’s alleged underworld boss.

Giuseppe Ursino
Giuseppe Ursino Photo by File

Guido was again wired. It was the 228th time he acted as a secret double agent for police and his last in the operation. Guido boldly complained to Ursino of his meeting with Commisso.


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“He says he heard something that I was no good,” Guido said to Ursino, according to the wiretap recording. “He goes, ‘You’re not stupid.’ He goes, ‘You know, you have a mother, father, brothers, you don’t want anything to happen to them’.”

Guido said he challenged Commisso.

“Don’t f—ing threaten my family,” he recounted his response, to which Commisso said he wasn’t threatening his family.

The next day, he said Commisso called him and asked to meet. In a café, he said, Commisso tried to explain.

“I wasn’t threatening your family, right? But you know the way Italians, especially the, you know, the way they do it.…  If you’re talking to the police and they can’t find you they go after your family … I’m just letting you know.”


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Ursino did not seem surprised by the accusation against Guido. “Look, more than one person has told me that,” he said.

“But why?” Guido said, acting deeply hurt.

Guido, continuing the charade of the cocaine importation scheme, said he was going to take one of his kilos and use it to pay off a gambling debt he owed Commisso.

“I’m going to pay him his debt so I can get rid of him,” Guido said, expressing his anger for Commisso.

If you’re talking to the police and they can’t find you they go after your family … I’m just letting you know

Ursino offered Guido some advice: “You should stay calm. You have to talk less sometimes.”

Commisso has a serious, though dated, criminal record, including conspiring to murder two Sicilian mobsters in Toronto. He was released on parole in 1989. In a previous interview with the National Post, he denied being involved in the mob or in criminal activity.

Despite the intrigue and threatening talk swirling around them, Guido and Ursino still seemed determined to close their deal. Guido outlined the agreed split of the cocaine load, court heard. He said he would give Ursino two kilos as his cut as the boss of the family Guido worked for.

“You want the kilos or the money?” Guido asked, estimating each kilo would be worth about $55,000.

“If you got the money, it’s better for me, Carm,” Ursino replied.

The trial continues.

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